In 2012, the Supreme Court ruled that it was up to each state whether to expand Medicaid eligibility, and 19 states chose not to do so. Inara Verzemnieks, journalist and assistant professor at the University of Iowa, joins us to discuss her recent article for The New York Times Magazine, “Life in Obamacare’s Deadzone,” which looks at the Americans who have been excluded from the Affordable Care Act. Verzemnieks explains how residents with the lowest incomes in those 19 states were caught between two non-options: “They made too much to qualify for Medicaid, or didn’t qualify at all, but they also made too little for publicly subsidized insurance on the exchanges, their income not high enough to trigger the refundable tax credits and cost-sharing that could make the possibility remotely affordable to someone making just a few dollars above the federal poverty level.” Also joining us is Prof. Heide Castañeda, a medical anthropologist at the University of South Florida, whose work and forthcoming book, Covered? Risk, Inequality, and Experiences of Health Reform in the United States, to be published by New York University Press, deals with Americans who have been left out of health care reform.